All Around Me lyrics by Flyleaf

oh and i thought i might also add, jetman, what point could your life possibly have? please tell me because i'm curious. could it be putting down the people who are actually happy with their lives simply because of your selfish ego? is it to have enough sex and natural stimulation that controls your pathetic life? the term "good" derives from ancient times when it had an actual meaning. your definition of good has no value. your use of good is nonsensical in comparison to ours. otherwise what does yours mean? this giant mass of molecules shoved a few other molecules in another mass of molecules creating a surge of energy flowing through the two masses? what is the point? seriously i want to know what you really think about this one so that i can understand what you are trying to say. otherwise you sound idiotic when you don't back up your cases with evidence.

OMG... this is not a sexual song... my goodness...
it's her finding her safe refuge in god...

"I can feel you all around me
Thickening the air I'm breathing
Holding on to what I'm feeling
Savoring this heart that's healing

And so I cry
The light is white
And I see you"

after all the worst things she experienced, she found a savior in HIM...

jeepers mister you'd like to take lil old me out? seriously if i was a girl, what would your intentions have been? angry sex after an argument over dinner? sick pervert. no i'm actually a sixteen year old male with testosterone to spare, i'm just not the average guy who hides what he believes.
and who goes right out and says they're going to convert someone so stubborn as you? what would you like me to say? " hello i will be your converter for this evening." ?
why shouldn't i do it in a way so that you might actually find something you agree with and perhaps give it a chance by at least looking at all the other possibilities. but no you are so opinionated that you will not look beyond even your own statements. thus might it have been a better idea to put you on slightly less of a defensive you are already in?
lets look at your statement against killing a woman. yes i agree that this is a controversial statement, yet you have not even really thought about how it could be justified. think about it psychologically, imagine actually killing a woman in present time. though not all laws jump right to death row, imagine you are sentenced to death, but instead you wait years and years and years rotting in a prison shunned by everyone around you without a single pleasure of this world to perk you up. then you are finally scheduled to die after the years of grief and torment from your piers. death would feel to good. imagine it in those times, though they didn't have high security facilities, a fine would do just nicely. most people weren't exactly rich in these times, thus a fine would make you most likely poorer than poor. you are ignored on the streets because you are a shameful murderer, and you haven't even a penny to your name for the cheapest prostitute, eventually stealing would be your means of survival, then you come to the point in which stealing is what finally condemns you to the death you were probably already hoping for after the seclusion and grief of your actions. in my opinion killing a cow would be a much less painful punishment. now did i miss anything on that subject?
that brings me to the "bull****" part of our little discussion. where is your evidence behind this cow turd? doesn't this only prove that you are too opinionated and stubborn based on one set of standards you can not even justify? does this not make you an uncredible source? i do not mean that i am going to believe every word i hear, that would only fill my life with more contradictions than i need...obviously, but i give everything a chance by looking at all possibilities. i gave atheism a chance before, it doesn't have all of the answers. in a lot of cases the bible doesn't have all of the answers either, but it gives a lot more possibilities. this makes for better more fulfilling arguments in my opinion. mathematical and scientific arguments are dull and limited, just because the universe is supposedly endless doesn't mean it's properties are. the beautiful thing about christianity (as well as religion altogether) is that you can argue about it endlessly. but only if you are caring enough to look at all the possibilities.
which also leads me to say that you must be absurd to take everything in the bible literally. most of it is made up of poetic metaphores and analogies that can be interpreted in uncountable ways, and again, it was written by human hand which is typically filled with errors. i mean for the beautiful lords sake look at how many spelling mistakes are in my post alone. i can't believe all of these red lines.
but the what is written as law is ultimately...well law. though a lot of times i disagree with them, i am still working on justifying them, and i am having a lot of success the more and more i look at all the possibilities. I've hit a lot of brick walls too, but i haven't given up yet. that's what separates me from you.

jeepers mister you'd like to take lil old me out? seriously if i was a girl, what would your intentions have been? angry sex after an argument over dinner? sick pervert. no i'm actually a sixteen year old male with testosterone to spare, i'm just not the average guy who hides what he believes.
and who goes right out and says they're going to convert someone so stubborn as you? what would you like me to say? " hello i will be your converter for this evening." ?
why shouldn't i do it in a way so that you might actually find something you agree with and perhaps give it a chance by at least looking at all the other possibilities. but no you are so opinionated that you will not look beyond even your own statements. thus might it have been a better idea to put you on slightly less of a defensive you are already in?
lets look at your statement against killing a woman. yes i agree that this is a controversial statement, yet you have not even really thought about how it could be justified. think about it psychologically, imagine actually killing a woman in present time. though not all laws jump right to death row, imagine you are sentenced to death, but instead you wait years and years and years rotting in a prison shunned by everyone around you without a single pleasure of this world to perk you up. then you are finally scheduled to die after the years of grief and torment from your piers. death would feel to good. imagine it in those times, though they didn't have high security facilities, a fine would do just nicely. most people weren't exactly rich in these times, thus a fine would make you most likely poorer than poor. you are ignored on the streets because you are a shameful murderer, and you haven't even a penny to your name for the cheapest prostitute, eventually stealing would be your means of survival, then you come to the point in which stealing is what finally condemns you to the death you were probably already hoping for after the seclusion and grief of your actions. in my opinion killing a cow would be a much less painful punishment. now did i miss anything on that subject?
that brings me to the "bull****" part of our little discussion. where is your evidence behind this cow turd? doesn't this only prove that you are too opinionated and stubborn based on one set of standards you can not even justify? does this not make you an uncredible source? i do not mean that i am going to believe every word i hear, that would only fill my life with more contradictions than i need...obviously, but i give everything a chance by looking at all possibilities. i gave atheism a chance before, it doesn't have all of the answers. in a lot of cases the bible doesn't have all of the answers either, but it gives a lot more possibilities. this makes for better more fulfilling arguments in my opinion. mathematical and scientific arguments are dull and limited, just because the universe is supposedly endless doesn't mean it's properties are. the beautiful thing about christianity (as well as religion altogether) is that you can argue about it endlessly. but only if you are caring enough to look at all the possibilities.
which also leads me to say that you must be absurd to take everything in the bible literally. most of it is made up of poetic metaphores and analogies that can be interpreted in uncountable ways, and again, it was written by human hand which is typically filled with errors. i mean for the beautiful lords sake look at how many spelling mistakes are in my post alone. i can't believe all of these red lines.
but the what is written as law is ultimately...well law. though a lot of times i disagree with them, i am still working on justifying them, and i am having a lot of success the more and more i look at all the possibilities. I've hit a lot of brick walls too, but i haven't given up yet. that's what separates me from you.

jeepers mister you'd like to take lil old me out? seriously if i was a girl, what would your intentions have been? angry sex after an argument over dinner? sick pervert. no i'm actually a sixteen year old male with testosterone to spare, i'm just not the average guy who hides what he believes.
and who goes right out and says they're going to convert someone so stubborn as you? what would you like me to say? " hello i will be your converter for this evening." ?
why shouldn't i do it in a way so that you might actually find something you agree with and perhaps give it a chance by at least looking at all the other possibilities. but no you are so opinionated that you will not look beyond even your own statements. thus might it have been a better idea to put you on slightly less of a defensive you are already in?
lets look at your statement against killing a woman. yes i agree that this is a controversial statement, yet you have not even really thought about how it could be justified. think about it psychologically, imagine actually killing a woman in present time. though not all laws jump right to death row, imagine you are sentenced to death, but instead you wait years and years and years rotting in a prison shunned by everyone around you without a single pleasure of this world to perk you up. then you are finally scheduled to die after the years of grief and torment from your piers. death would feel to good. imagine it in those times, though they didn't have high security facilities, a fine would do just nicely. most people weren't exactly rich in these times, thus a fine would make you most likely poorer than poor. you are ignored on the streets because you are a shameful murderer, and you haven't even a penny to your name for the cheapest prostitute, eventually stealing would be your means of survival, then you come to the point in which stealing is what finally condemns you to the death you were probably already hoping for after the seclusion and grief of your actions. in my opinion killing a cow would be a much less painful punishment. now did i miss anything on that subject?
that brings me to the "bull****" part of our little discussion. where is your evidence behind this cow turd? doesn't this only prove that you are too opinionated and stubborn based on one set of standards you can not even justify? does this not make you an uncredible source? i do not mean that i am going to believe every word i hear, that would only fill my life with more contradictions than i need...obviously, but i give everything a chance by looking at all possibilities. i gave atheism a chance before, it doesn't have all of the answers. in a lot of cases the bible doesn't have all of the answers either, but it gives a lot more possibilities. this makes for better more fulfilling arguments in my opinion. mathematical and scientific arguments are dull and limited, just because the universe is supposedly endless doesn't mean it's properties are. the beautiful thing about christianity (as well as religion altogether) is that you can argue about it endlessly. but only if you are caring enough to look at all the possibilities.
which also leads me to say that you must be absurd to take everything in the bible literally. most of it is made up of poetic metaphores and analogies that can be interpreted in uncountable ways, and again, it was written by human hand which is typically filled with errors. i mean for the beautiful lords sake look at how many spelling mistakes are in my post alone. i can't believe all of these red lines.
but the what is written as law is ultimately...well law. though a lot of times i disagree with them, i am still working on justifying them, and i am having a lot of success the more and more i look at all the possibilities. I've hit a lot of brick walls too, but i haven't given up yet. that's what separates me from you.